WHEN THE BIBLE GET’S IT WRONG!

Dear friends, I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to his holy people. I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.

Jude, verses 3 and 4; from the New Living Translation

If you desire to be deemed mean, ugly, and phobic, then deeply study the Bible, and share what The Spirit reveals in the Bible. At least, that’s how it works in my United Methodist Tribe. I always believed that God watched over the entire process from writing and rewriting those sacred books, all the way to the Canonization that led to our Bible. Turns out I was wrong. Or so my progressive counterparts insist. According to them, God has just be waiting and waiting for folks like them to straighten everyone out on where the Bible just got it wrong. Now, I haven’t heard any of them use the exact words I have used.

But it is clearly seen in how they have conveniently correct the errors found in the Bible. And it’s all because Jesus told His followers to love others. Love erases the sinfulness of sin, and sanctifies it. Thanks to them, we now know that God Himself, created homosexuality. Oh, and the New Testament never used the word “homosexual”, so that makes it OK. Well, the New Testament never uses the word “pornography”, so by their logic, that makes pornography OK.

When anyone approaches the Bible with the attitude that they are right, then the results are clear–that God’s Grace justifies just about anything they want. Because of their contention, I am amazed and perplexed how this Bible has lasted so long–seeing that its writers didn’t really understand 21st century people. So, whenever the Bible gets it wrong–it’s up to sin-stained but enlightened people to set the record straight. Boy, I can just hear Jude going off on them!

Now, that’s the logic of progressive theology. They can disagree with my observation and conclusion. I’m OK with that. If they want to be wrong, that’s their right. The Bible doesn’t exist to justify our opinions. The Bible exists to tell us the greatest saga ever. It starts with perfection–but takes a turn when Adam and Eve believe Satan’s lie that they can know as much as God. (Sound familiar?) And it continues with the Saga of God trying to restore them and their descendants back to their rightful place by showing them how much they need Him to break free of the slavery of sin.

Finally, God showed humanity how ugly the sin was in them when Jesus was nailed to that Cross. That death didn’t put God’s Seal Of Approval on our preferred choice of sin. It shows us just how ugly sin really is. And with the Resurrection, God showed everyone how that He can and will deliver us from sin’s dominion and power over us. Unfortunately, too many don’t want to be delivered from sin’s power over them. They just want to think that if they love others, then the rest doesn’t matter. And what the Bible says about Holiness of Heart and Holiness of Life–well, that’s just wrong. But the Bible isn’t wrong

27 thoughts on “WHEN THE BIBLE GET’S IT WRONG!

  1. People of all religious stripes love the bible cause it is easily manipulated. It’s always the other person who has it wrong. Even better, you can always seem to find a translation that words it just right to support ones theology.
    Demonizing others to “prove”ones point is never a good look Randy.
    Jesus Christ who IS the Word of God can not be manipulated, this is why few people actually come to Him. They prefer their bibles over Jesus Christ.
    I think it’s well past the time that th term “christian” religion should be changed to “Paulian”
    religion.
    Everyone without exception pick and choose bible verses to justify their belief’s leaving out those that contridict their delusions. When I say everyone, I’m including myself. It is abundantly clear that no one has it right.
    Careful not give yourself a heart attack or aneurism Brother. God has this.

    Blessings

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    1. Grace and holiness don’t have to be mutually exclusive. Jesus showed grace to the woman caught in adultery. He challenged the Pharisees to throw the first stone if they were without sin. (Obviously, not one of them qualified.) But when He said, “Neither do I condemn you,” He didn’t then tell her to go live the rest of her life whatever way felt good to her. Jesus (not Paul) said, “Go, and leave your life of sin.” (John 8:11)

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      1. My antiquated KJV says that Jesus says
        “Go, and sin no more” seems to be a bit of a discrepancy there.
        But since we’re on the words of Jesus, let’s not stop short.
        In the parable of the tax collector, who leaves justified? The self righteous bible thumper or the sinner?
        Also, please let me know who manages to impress Jesus throughout the Gospels.
        And while we’re at it, please show me where Jesus mentions or prophecies anything about Paul or another book to guide us or lead us into all truth.
        And I don’t say this because I think the bible is fiction. I believe the general narrative of the bible to be true.
        Nor am I against “holiness” preaching. But the one doing the preaching might want to humble themselves and throw themselves in along with the sinners instead of acting like they’re holy
        The whole Christian religion is based on prophecy, yet todays christian doctrines are based on traditions of men.
        Todays christian is yesteryears jew.

        So you know, I have heard a few pastors claim from the pulpit that their church is indeed a Paulian church.

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        1. Unless we’re reading the original Aramaic, Greek, or Hebrew, any Bible we have will be a translation. “Go and sin no more,” “Go and leave your life of sin,” not sure what discrepancy you see, but neither says that adultery is OK. In the other story, the sinner was justified, because he was sorry and repented, unlike the self-righteous who didn’t admit to being a sinner and didn’t repent. Repentance (“Changing one’s mind”) is exactly what Jesus was telling the adulteress to do, so in both cases, sin and pride lose, repentance and a better life win.

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          1. I don’t think the word “repent” shows up in either story we’re discussing. I also get the feeling we’re talking past each other on a few subjects when my original comment was focused on the perpetuated myth that the bible is the word of God.

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      1. How did Saul know Jesus apart from the bible?
        Also, the bible wasn’t written and compiles for a few hundred years after Jesus was here physically how did anyone know about Jesus?
        Long before the printing press, there were other means of passing down stories.

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        1. The Gospels were all written within a generation after Jesus, with information received from eyewitnesses. But the original context of my comment has to do with TODAY, 2000 years after Jesus. If the Bible is not dependable, then how can we know him? Make him up as we want him to be? –

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        2. The Gospels were composed within one generation of Jesus, utilizing information directly from eyewitnesses. The question I was addressing is about our context today, 2000 years later. If the bible is not very dependable, how do WE know anything about Jesus? You mentioned Saul/Paul. Are you really going to claim to have supernatural knowledge from an appearance to you of the risen Christ?

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          1. Is it impossible for Jesus to reveal Himself to who’m He chooses by what ever mean He chooses?
            If so, then you might as well throw out every writing that’s attributed to Paul.
            You all talk about an all powerful God from one side of your mouth and from the other side of your mouth you profess a weak and powerless Gos who needs men to do his bidding?
            Our context today? Is not God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?
            I have had my fair share of revelation as is promised in the Gospels.

            How did any of the bible charectors know when God was speaking to them? They had no bible to guide them. Prophecy doesn’t come from something all ready recorded. None of the “fathers of faith” had a book to confirm what they believed was God communicating with them.

            What is the matter with you that you would reduce God to a book written and compiled by men.
            You don’t seem to have any faith at all.
            Keep in mind I have not claimed that the bible is fake or useless, I have made no such claim.
            But for some reason you want to bind me to a man made book. I ‘ll continue to rebuke that.
            The bible is not the “Word” or the “word” of God. Jesus never used that term and neither should we.
            Jesus can, and does exist outside of the bible.
            Who taught you that the word of God is the bible?

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            1. Certainly Jesus can and does reveal himself today. But not in contradiction of scripture! He himself quoted scriptures and said, “The Spirit says…” or says the author was “guided by the Spirit.” In his last conversation with his friends (John 13-17), Jesus said the Holy Spirit will come to teach and reveal as a continuation of his ministry, not a contradiction of it.

              BTW, I notice you called the Bible “a man made book.” So, you don’t believe with Paul that “All scripture is God breathed”? (2Tim.3:16) And if it’s just “a man made book,” how can you be sure it has any real and lasting value?

              Finally, in an earlier comment it was stated that “the Bible is easily manipulated.” Well, I’d say it’s much easier to manipulate a “revelation” that has no root in the Bible.

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              1. Sorry David, you have not convinced me that the bible is the word of God.

                Jesus quoted 1% of the old testament, I encourage you to pay attention to the scriptures Jesus quoted.

                2 Timothy 3:16, I’m more partial to an alternate translation.
                There’s a few versions that read “ All scripture that is given”
                As for “real and lasting value” I can be sure of my beliefs just as easily as you.

                As for manipulation of revelation, I can clearly see the manipulation of the bible as the whole world can, I’ll take my chances trusting in Jesus over a bible. You can remain a fundamentalist.

                And as for your last comment, being “rooted” in the bible will not save anyone. It didn’t work for the Jewish religion and it will not work in the Christian religion.
                Jesus said so Himself.
                Eternal life is IN Jesus Christ alone. Quit adding to it.

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                1. Yet, one cannot allow the misuse and abuse by some decrease the worth and value of The Written Word. Without the Written Word, human logic and feelings become The Standard. And that never works out. Look at the mess our world is in. Appreciate and love you, my Brother!

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                  1. Human logic and feelings are what we use to interpret the bible, all of us without execption.
                    As I’ve stated before, the scriptures didn’t work for the Jews and it won’t work for Christians.
                    Look at the mess your denomination is in. We can also lump the baptist, evangelical, catholic, etc etc, in with your tribe as well. I’m not saying one is better than the other.
                    I hope you know that I do appreciate the bible for what it is. But it seems to me it’s become somewhat of an idol as did Moses and Aaron’s staff amongst other relics.
                    I appreciate and love you as well Brother.
                    You’re most gracious in allowing me to express my walk with Christ here on your blog. I am not a troll who’s trying to sow discord. I am a brother in Christ expressing myself as a believer IN Christ.
                    I understand my belief’s are contrary to the masses but ultimately, my salvation is my responsibility. Another word for logos is logic. I do believe that God is indeed logical, but understand that His ways are not my ways.
                    Thank you Randy.
                    Blessings

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                2. Without scripture as your guide, you get to make it up as you go. Welcome to one of the earliest roots of heresy!

                  You can like whatever translation of 2 Timothy you choose. But you might want to check the original Greek, where it says “All scripture is God-breathed.”

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                  1. Do you not know that the Holy Spirit speaks all languages? And most christians make it up as they go with scripture. Do you not see this? Often pinning Paul vs Jesus and others.
                    Jesus is Deity, every other man in the bible is a man and therefore capable of making mistakes.
                    If you haven’t picked it up yet, my point is that the scriptures don’t guarantee that ones theology is correct. If it could, we wouldn’t have multitudes of translations, transliterations, commentaries and paraphrases. . This is obvious to everyone but some just want to belive that everyone else has it wrong.
                    You’ve been very gracious David and please know that I don’t consider any of this to be a salvation issue. We are all responsible for our own salvation as we will not be able to blame anyone else as we stand before Jesus Christ. Alone we face Jesus Christ.
                    Blessings

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  2. I can feel your pain in your words. The Bible is the inspired Word of God and will continue to be until the end of time. When logic and progressive thinking get I. The way, the devil dives right in and gets a strong foothold. When we place man above God, we’re no different than Adam and Eve were. Keep fighting and stay strong!

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  3. Excellent brother. “Finally, God showed humanity how ugly the sin was in them when Jesus was nailed to that Cross. That death didn’t put God’s Seal Of Approval on our preferred choice of sin.”

    I am so thankful Jesus has had mercy on me and delivered me out of darkness.

    Soli Deo Gloria!

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  4. Brother Randy, your post brings to my mind the words of Paul where he reminds the church in Ephesus, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the authorities, against the power of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” We are most certainly in the midst of a spiritual battle between the two kingdoms, the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness. Satan has blinded many who’ve believed his LIE that the Bible is only the thoughts of a pre-scientific people too unenlightened to know what is REALLY true, such arrogance. This is demonstrated by a book written by a highly respected UMC pastor who claims that we enlightened humans can pick and choose which commands of God are still valid and toss the others into one of two other buckets.

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